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Feb 22 12

Embracing the other side?

by Darren

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I really don’t know where to start when it comes to my views on religion, specifically the Catholic faith in which I was raised. Do I mention being forced to go to mass each Sunday as a kid? Do I mention my fear of going to confession or my fear when meeting the bishop at my confirmation? Do I mention that I once (and for a significant portion of time) considered the priesthood? Do I talk about my rebellion against going to mass, once I realised how ridiculous the whole thing is? Do I talk of my agnosticism giving way to atheism?

Religion has been such a massive part of my life, whether I’ve wanted it to be or not. This is Ireland afterall, how could I avoid it? It’s ingrained into our psyche. The most atheist among us will still scream expletives akin to “Holy Mary, Mother of God” when we stub our toe. The most ardent disbeliever will still be able to recite Our Father. And there is not one rational person on this isle who doesn’t have an opinion on the abuses towards children (and others) committed by senior members of the biggest religion in the country.

My name is Darren and I am steeped in Catholic guilt, despite many years ago casting aside the crazy beliefs with which I was raised. There’s no escaping it. This lent, I’ve decided to embrace it. I’m not turning my back on the Catholic Church any longer. I’m stepping through it’s overly ornate doors, walking up it’s marble aisle, kneeling in front of the altar of opulence and accepting the Church into my life.

Yes, for the next 40(ish) days, I am going to attend mass and find out what all the fuss is about. I will listen to the sermons and try to find out if these Lords of Hypocrisy still have a place within Irish society. I will share my views on belief, doctrine, cults; I will share my thoughts on why I think the Catholic Church should quietly slink away into the dark recesses in which it belongs. There is no God, this I have long since accepted. Now I ask, why is there a Church?

Here is my first video is a series I hope to continue. On Ash Wednesday, I step into a Church for the first time since my grandmother’s funeral, six years ago. Please join me, agree with me, argue with me, criticise me, praise me, talk to me, berate me and applaud me, as I attempt to give my views on the Catholic Church over the lenten period.

Feb 13 12

February Event :: Brian McClinton

by Phil O'Kane

On Thursday 16th February, Belfast Skeptics in the Pub will present Brian McClinton, retired school teacher, author of ‘The Shakespeare Conspiracies’ and ‘Ulster’s Third Way’, a director of the Humanist Association of Northern Ireland, and editor of the all-Ireland magazine ‘Humanism Ireland’. He will argue that scepticism is not enough. Humanism goes beyond scepticism to place a trust (faith?) in humanity and that we can create a better world based on humane principles: “Remember your humanity and forget the rest”.

As always, this event is open to everyone and anyone and is completely free.
As with all Skeptics in the Pub events, come along, have a drink, listen to the speaker, and feel free to stick around afterwards for a chat and another pint!

Register your attendance on Eventbrite and Facebook.
Date: Thursday, 16th February

Time: 7.30pm sharp

Location: The Parlour Club Room (up the stairs and around to the left),
2-4 Elmwood Avenue, Belfast, BT9 6AY [map].

Sep 14 11

Soapbox: Nadine’s Big Strop

by PadPad

Last week, an attempt by Nadine Dorries MP to remove counselling services from abortion providers and giving it to what were referred to as ‘independent’ providers was stopped by a vote of 368 to 118 in Westminster.

Of the Northern Irish MPs in attendance at the vote, every single one voted in favour of Dorries’ amendment. This includes SDLP MPs and Alliance’s sole MP, Naomi Long.

The argument was that it is wrong to give bodies that receive public money for carrying out abortions the task of also providing counselling on the subject, as they would have a “vested interest” in making sure abortion levels stayed the same or grew. That is to say, that current providers Marie Stopes and bpas would seek to profit out of providing abortion services.

One of the major groups that would become responsible for providing this counselling however, CareConfidential, was found by a Newsnight investigation to hold hardline Christian views.

The group, which has over 130 affiliated centres across the UK, making it the largest independent crisis pregnancy body in the UK, was found to issue the following religious statements within its training manual:

  • “Abortion is undoubtedly a wickedness that grieves God’s heart. As we study the Bible we see that life begins within the womb when the human egg is fertilised and then implanted.”
  • “The deliberate destruction of the developing child at any stage from this point is to deny the life of the human being – a most grievous sin in the eyes of God…”
  • “Because abortion involves the taking of a human life, a life that God created, it is very much a spiritual issue. It is important therefore that this work of post-abortion counselling is ‘church-based’”.

Speaking to Newsnight, former Liberal Democrat MP Dr Evan Harris said;

“There already is an existing, unbiased, professional service which is regulated and inspected by the department of health itself, which on its website warns against going to the so-called independent abortion providers who have been shown time and again through mystery shopping exercises to give distorted advice, incorrect advice and try and shame women into not seeking abortion when that’s in their interests and what they want”.

The argument for the change was that it would increase choice for women, but what has subsequently emerged is that this was merely a smokescreen for radical changes from a group of people which, seemingly, take issue with abortion.

Campaigners, for example, claimed that the scheme would reduce the number of abortions each year by 60,000 – a striking talking point rooted in the notion that people having abortions is a problem.

Further, in the House of Commons, Nadine Dorries claimed that during her meetings with David Cameron, the Prime Minister was enthusiastic of the plan and instructed Dorries to use the word ‘independent’ in describing the replacement bodies.

Given the highly religious findings from the Newsnight investigation, the group is certainly not independent, leaving Cameron’s advice as smart misdirection inferring fault with the current system and, subsequently, the need for reform.

Finally, during the debate, Dorries stood in Parliament and stated, “Like 73 per cent of the country I am Church of England, I do have Christian beliefs, but I am not sure when that became a crime”.

If we are being kind, we would say that Dorries felt persecuted for her Christianity when trying to implement a change she believed in, detached from her religion. This is a woman, after all, who has declared, “I am pro-choice. Abortion is here to stay.”

In light, however, of the replacement provider, the talking point about reducing the number of abortions, the fact that the plans would lengthen the abortion process closer toward the limit and the clear spin top Tory brass placed on the amendment, it does put her Christianity in new light, casting doubt on her true intentions and posing the question of whether her idea was founded in fact or religion.

There is growing concern amongst some Christians that they are in some way being outlawed. In reality, the issue is that these same Christians are seeking to impose their beliefs on an entire society. In doing so, they circumvent logic, morality and decency.

Regardless of what the Bible says, it would be abhorrent to give Government money to an abortion counselling service which referred to one woman’s 6 week pregnancy as a ‘baby’ and described her situation as ‘God giving her another chance’.

Further, it is outrageous that some churches deny same-sex ceremonies on the grounds that they would seek to ‘rewrite nature’ when, in reality, it is their unverified, ungrounded beliefs which discriminate against groups due to innate aspects as irrelevant and incidental as race or eye colour. Coincidentally, these aspects are not beliefs but scientific fact.

These people are ignoring fact. Let us be clear; what these people are doing is akin to denying the sky is blue, the grass green or the existence of gravity.

The argument of ‘independence’ suggests that a compromise between fact and fiction is beneficial. The UK Prime Minister was in favour of this amendment and, indeed, suggested the ‘independence’ line. If this government is going to be so adverse to fact, why don’t they just make everyone rub cats on their foreheads to reduce the deficit and have done with it? For our MPs to vote in favour of this shambles is embarrassing, shameful and depressingly predictable.

Finally, in the words of Dorries herself in an article she wrote for the Mail, “I would like to say that we have reason on our side but then, in politics, when the issue of abortion is raised, all reason seems to fly out of the whips’ office window”. Oh irony of ironies.

Jun 20 11

It must be true, I read it in the Mail

by PadPad

In the short history of this website, we haven’t taken aim, really, at the media. Thanks to the Daily Mail on Saturday, however, that’s about to change. You see, the Daily Mail offered a corker of an example of how the media ignore all common sense, logic and reason and draw on pre-established narratives to appeal to their readers. Like all good dealers of addictive schlock, they keep hitting the same buttons they know will send a thrill through their audience to keep them coming back for more.

As I’m sure you all know, it would strongly appear as though Daily Mail hates the BBC. That’s their narrative and the Daily Mail’s ‘middle England’ readers lap it up. So it came as no surprise, then, when I came across a story on their site called “The price of beauty: BBC to spend £100,000 of licence fee payer’s money on make-up artists for news presenters”. Now, let’s keep in mind the fact that BBC News has 24 hour coverage, 7 days a week featuring no less than 30 people, anchors, journalists and contributors, (and probably tens more) which appear in the studio and need make up. Let’s keep in mind the fact, then, that for £100,000 the BBC is employing make-up people 24 hours a day, 7 days a week which could easily be the salaries of four people. Let’s also remember the fact that neither you nor I wish to see a melting George Alagiah or a Fiona Bruce with a forehead not too dissimilar to Niagara falls. And let’s remember that TV news programmes, be it ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5 or Sky, all use makeup on their talent and contributors and that, due to studio lights, it’s nice when people’s faces don’t reflect every stage light into camera.

 

The Daily Mail have, however, ignored all that in Rebecca Twomey’s article, favouring instead emotive phrases like “the staggering amount of licence fee payer’s money”, “pricey measures” and “an expensive affair”. Knowledge is what allows us to hold bodies and politicians to account. Why, then, is this naked ideological agenda permitted and tolerated? This type of propaganda only serves the purposes of newspaper and its owners. Knowledge is vital to a healthy democracy and has a profound effect on the electorate.

 

On the same day, serial BBC hater Liz Thomas wrote an article called “A glass act: Fiona Bruce wears specs and no make-up to read the news after catching eye infection”. In this article, Thomas uses three Tweets (I kid you not) to show how her glasses sparked a “flurry of debate” about her glasses. So, after hammering the BBC for spending money on makeup artists and, ultimately, vanity, the Mail is now hammering one of the BBC’s newsreaders for not having makeup on and wearing glasses. Hypocrisy aside, it’s obvious the Mail uses articles like this to rile people up and drive traffic to their site. In the links here, however, you won’t be giving them any traffic. Win-win.

 

It’s a real illustration, however, of the role the media plays in the dumbification of the public. If it’s written in the papers, it has some legitimacy in it. That’s the perception. This is exactly why bullshit like homeopathy, psychics and the like float unchecked into the public’s consciousness, and how religion dictates, directly or otherwise, public policy. It might not seem like it matters, but homeopaths have been travelling to disaster zones handing out their glorified Skittles to people in need of real medication. Why do we accept this kind of stuff? Because it’s true, of course. I read it in the papers.

Jun 13 11

World in shock as psychic turns out to be wrong

by PadPad

So last week I was watching Psychoville at one or two in the morning on BBC iPlayer. This happens a lot. I have the sleeping patterns of a bat and the TV consumption habits of a student. Personally, I blame rap music.

Anyway, when it ended I went to the Guardian’s website and saw, at the top, in the Breaking News ticker, a harrowing developing story on a mass grave in Texas containing the bodies of up to 40 women and children.

“What in the name of Christ is this about?” I thought. “Was this some cult or a lone mental?” As it turned out, it was just the sick ramblings of a psychic the police had to look into. There was no mass grave.

Now, I was going to write a real skeptics blog post on this, but I really don’t need to since the Discovery channel’s news website have completely nailed it already.

If you want to hear the psychic’s ‘side’ of this, the Houston Chronicle managed to track her down.

Now, this story made it to the Guardian, Reuters and the New York times. The FBI was involved in the search. This psychic should face a penalty. Wasting police resources and, as such, tax payer money on the fanciful imaginings of a disturbed person while also including a national body is wholly unacceptable.

I haven’t heard if this psychic is going to face any consequences for this, but I sincerely hope they are. I can’t imagine I’m the only person that would want penalties in place so these people have to think again.

May 16 11

Denial is not just a river

by Conor Pendergrast

A Minister for the Environment who denied climate change.

A Minister for Culture who wanted creationism promoted in the Ulster Museum.

Now? Well, now we have a Minister for Health who denies evolution. Well, that’s just super. As we said on Twitter:

Good thing evolution has nothing to do with medicine, viruses, genetic disease, science or anything else. No sireee no. Nothing to see here.

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Some of our fellow Tweeters are very, very funny. Here’s Colm Ryan‘s illustration:

The Complete Theory of Evolution

Thanks to Colm Ryan

 

He also said:

His first duty will be to legislate against penicillin for evolving. #edwinthecreationist

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Then there was Alun:

Could be a clever move. If he makes evolution illegal in NI, that’s MRSA wiped out, yes? ;)

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And of course Chris, in a wonderful nod to the Life of Brian:

Apart from sanitation, medicine, education, irrigation, health, roads and freshwater what has science done for us?

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Big props to Robin Ince for retweeting us :)

Just to see what his reaction might be and how the idea of denying evolution while being minister for a department that has a serious science backing might be reconciled, we sent him the following email:

Dear Minister Poots,

First of all may we congratulate you on your recent appointment as the Minister of the Department of Health, Social Services and Public Safety. After the news broke today it came to our attention that, according to your website, you are a “young earth creationist and an opponent of the theory of evolution”. Could you please elaborate on this point? We would not wish to misrepresent your position on this matter. We are also concerned about how it might be possible to reconcile responsibility for public health and public safety with the denial of a well-established, well-supported and widely-accepted scientific theory and the possible repercussions that this might have.

We look forward to hearing back from you to respond to our concerns.

Kind regards,

Conor, Alana and Phil

If you want to do the same, you can email him directly on either private.office@dhsspsni.gov.uk or edwin@edwinpoots.co.uk. They’re both publicly-available email addresses.

Apr 25 11

AV Debate Follow-up

by Phil O'Kane

Thanks to everyone who came along and enjoyed the debate and post-debate discussion on the AV referendum, we’re extremely pleased with the turnout, and appreciate our two speakers taking the time to prepare their arguments and spend the evening with us. Michael has a run-down of the speakers’ points.

I’ve attached the audio for from the debate, beginning with Stephen Glenn’s for argument, then to Brian Wilson who is against AV, followed by questions from the floor.
The audio isn’t perfect, though I’ve done my best to increase the volume where necessary so hopefully it is audible and at a more-or-less standard volume throughout.

You can listen here using the SoundCloud player or download the MP3 file using the arrow on the right of the player.

Apr 11 11

Belfast Skeptics in the Pub – The AV Showdown

by Conor Pendergrast

For our 6th event, we have something particularly special lined up. In the spirit of the referendum season, we’re delighted to announce that we will be hosting a debate an the Alternative Voting system. Speaker in favour of the referendum on AV, we’ll have Stephen Glenn, the Yes to Fairer Votes Campaign Manager. Speaking against the referendum will be Green Party MLA Brian Wilson. The host for this event is to be confirmed. Each speaker will first have a short time to speak on the topic of the vote, then questions will be posed from the audience to get a discussion going. The aim by the end of the debate is that people will have a clear idea of what AV is and is not and whether they think they should vote for it or not.

Facebook page is here and Eventbrite page is here.

As always, if this is your first event, read our helpful ‘Being nice to newbies’ policy on our website – but don’t worry, you can just turn up and we won’t bite. If you’ve been to events before, we’d really appreciate some feedback in the comments below.

The event is taking place upstairs in the Club Room in the Parlour bar, out in the University Area of Belfast (map). It’ll take place on Thursday the 21st April from 19:30 sharp. The air conditioning will be all fixed, good news! Do arrive early (7pm onwards) to make sure you get a seat!

Mar 30 11

Follow-Up to Rebecca O’Neill’s talk

by Conor Pendergrast

Sorry this blog post took so long coming and that the next event hasn’t been announced yet. This are pretty busy at the moment, although that’s no excuse. A huge to thanks to everyone who came along to our last talk – Rebecca O’Neill from the Dublin Skeptics in the Pub spoke about the time she has spent working in a health food shop in Dublin. While the room was very cold (we’ll have that sorted for next time) there were plenty of seats for all the people who turned up – almost 40 people and our biggest audience so far! Rebecca and I mentioned a number of resources that might be of interest:

  • The Nightingale Collaboration – An initiative to share knowledge and experience in challenging misleading claims in healthcare advertising.
  • The Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) – The UK’s independent advertising regulator. If you see a claim that you don’t think can be supported, it’s a quick and easy process to report it to the ASA. Here’s a guide from the Nightingale Collaboration on reporting misleading claims in homeopathy.
  • Dublin Skeptics in the Pub – The monthly meetings for drinking sceptics in Dublin, from whence we found Rebecca.
  • Information is Beautiful – Snake Oil? – A graphic that Rebecca mentioned, which pitches the scientific evidence for dietary supplements against the popularity according to searches on Google and a ‘worth it’ line. A great graphic. Check the bottom of the page for disclaimers, more information and the source data – all really interesting and a very open way of working.

That’s all for now, keep an eye out for our next event. If you were at Rebecca’s talk, we’d love to get some feedback from you. Plus, sign up to our newsletter, just on the right of this page.

Feb 23 11

Wednesday Soapbox: Ideology and Skepticism

by Dave Powell

This is the second in a series of weekly opinion pieces by various members of the Belfast Skeptics. If you have an opinion to share or just want to rant about something, email us and we’ll have a chat.

Certain things are easy to be skeptical about – bogus health claims, UFO’s, psychics etc. But when it comes to personal politics, we are all under the impression that our own views are the most rational and reasoned approach to any given topic. After a brief flirtation with the Liberal Democrats in my late teens, I went to university and became your typical lefty student involved with the Anti Nazi League, Anti Poll Tax, Animal Rights and Environmental movements. I’m still broadly left wing but hope that my beliefs are more driven by reason than hippy idealism. To look at me as a student, the word “hippy” wouldn’t have been far from your lips but I’ve never really liked the hippy label.

I think it really only applies to a specific time at the end of the 60’s and start of the 70’s when people were really motivated by radical social upheaval – the backdrop of Vietnam and the emergence of a distinctly new type of youth culture providing the impetus for genuine change. But as the hippies grew up and went on to create multi-national ice cream companies, they left behind this legacy of a vague group of wishy washy individuals trying to meld some deeply held revolutionary convictions with a pick and mix eastern mysticism. Maybe I’m being too harsh, as they have also left us a legacy of sexual liberation and a wider acceptance of alternative lifestyles which many of us benefit from today.

But it’s the emphasis on “spirituality” in the environmental movement that I want to focus on here, and I’m afraid the hippies must take some of the blame. The environmental movement has some important messages to get across and I don’t think it does itself any favours by aligning itself with the shamans and mystics. Don’t get me wrong; there are a lot of clear-thinking rational people in the environmental movement -particularly working in the area of climate science but this seems to me slightly at odds with the “Mother Earth” approach.

A couple of years ago The Guardian ran an article bemoaning the decline of spirituality in the environmental movement. Here are a couple of quotes:

The hippies were fond of speaking of Gaia, Mother Earth, as a living organism. But as the environmental debate eventually reached the ears of politicians and scientists, it moved away from talk of spirituality and began to concentrate solely on a rational, scientific analysis of the effects of climate change.

“Look at what realists have done for us. They have led us to war and climate change, poverty on an unimaginable scale, and wholesale ecological destruction. Half of humanity goes to bed hungry because of all the realistic leaders in the world. I tell people who call me ‘unrealistic’ to show me what their realism has done. Realism is an outdated, overplayed and wholly exaggerated concept.”

- Satish Kumar

“Realists” seems to be a very broad category of people to blame for all the worlds ills. Anyway, this was my response:

The implication here seems to be that if you aren’t “spiritual” then you don’t truly understand the needs of the planet.

I’m more of a rationalist, and at the same time as understanding the need for respecting the planet and moving towards a less consumer based society, I would also be sceptical of this wishy washy spiritualism that supposedly gives certain “enlightened” people a direct line to the earth’s “energies”.

Your spirituality may give you a sense of personal fulfilment and motivate you as a steward for the planet, but that doesn’t mean that the non-spiritual are any less capable.

I acknowledge that some spiritual leaders have some wise things to say about the planet, but I don’t get this reverence for spiritual wisdom above reason and evidence.

Some writers such as Alastair Mcintosh make important points about the relationship between small communities and large corporations but then go and spoil it with references to pagan Christianity. But maybe I’m wrong, maybe these are the kinds of ideas that people feel they can invest in. Maybe the “Mother Earth” idea is a necessary narrative device to get people to take an interest in the planet and it’s survival. But in my experience it’s the preachy “mother earth” types that put people off environmentalism. I still get portrayed as a bit of an “eco-warrior” at work, just because I cycle in and do the recycling.

If I started to tell my colleagues that they needed to be at one with the planet I’d be laughed out of the office, but start talking about the top speed and range of the new generation of electric cars and their ears prick up. In reality change is only going to come with innovation and development in eco technology combined with a move away from an oil based economy which will be driven by cheaper alternatives becoming more readily available. Even though I am convinced by the ethical arguments for reducing our carbon foot print now – most people are only going to change their habits when it saves them money.

One final word on Climate “skeptics”. They have taken our word and soiled it. We need to take it back, and the only way we can do that is by proving the validity of our claims and by re-imagining the earth mother narrative in a secular context.